Go read the post and come back. One thing that seems to have slipped Mann's notice is that the worst of the Corner post (in my opinion) was material quoted from another source, Rand Simberg. Mark didn't care to go there. And neither did Simberg's editor, who has since removed the Sandusky molestation comparison. The part in question now reads:Michael Mann, the professor who created the climate-change "hockey stick", announced over the weekend his intention to sue National Review over Mark's Corner post "Football and Hockey".You can see the letter from Professor Mann's lawyer here.
I’m referring to another cover up and whitewash that occurred there two years ago, before we learned how rotten and corrupt the culture at the university was. But now that we know how bad it was, perhaps it’s time that we revisit the Michael Mann affair, particularly given how much we’ve also learned about his and others’ hockey-stick deceptions since.The next sentence, about Mann being "the Sandusky of climate science," etc., is gone, with this note at the end:
*Two inappropriate sentences that originally appeared in this post have been removed by the editor.Simberg doesn't seem worried about a lawsuit. In response to a reader comment:
I have no doubt you will be issuing a retraction and an apology very soon when you get a letter.Jay Currie is also quite entertained:
I seriously doubt I’ll get one, but I’ll be quite entertained if I do. As I told Politico, it’s just a bluff. The last thing that Mann wants to do is go under oath with a discovery process.
“You don’t tug on Superman’s cape.”Fun, maybe, for us spectators, but it couldn't be all that diverting for the parties involved, as it drains away their time, energy, and financial resources. Mark Steyn has much better things to do. Here's hoping Mann smartens up and drops the idea.
Joy, joy, happy happy! I’ve always thought Mann was a tone-deaf idiot but never in my wildest dreams did I think he’d be dumb enough to sue, or even threaten to sue, a guy as bright as Steyn.
And, on balance, I rather suspect that Mann has absolutely no clue just how clever Mark actually is. We Canadians have had a ring side seat to Mark destroying the whole edifice of “speech regulation” in Canada. He didn’t just win, he and a few other people are directly responsible for the repeal of Canada’s anti-free speech laws.
But the best part is that Mark is wickedly funny. As we have learned, the “climate concerned community” has no sense of humour at all. Long before this goes to Court (as if) Mark will have a jolly excuse to make fun of Mikey.
It will not be pretty. But, Dear Lord, it will be fun.
Sue Mikey, sue!
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Update Tuesday morning: Rand Simberg replies to questions. Excerpt:
Interestingly, he seems much more upset about the accusations of scientific fraud than about the Sandusky comparison (the latter is almost an afterthought in the lawyer’s letter). But does he really want to litigate the hockey stick in a court of law? Does he in fact want to dig into any of his unscientific behavior in a venue in which he will be under oath, and he won’t have sympathetic colleagues covering for him? Does he really want those emails to be read aloud in court? And has he talked to the University of Virginia? Even if they continue to fight the FOIA, how will they fight a subpoena for the missing emails in a civil lawsuit?I can't believe Mann will go through with it.
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On second thought, Mark's free speech lawsuit gave birth, in a way, to Marshmallow World. So part of me is cheering this on in hopes of another musical breakthrough. I'm thinking video this time, something along these lines.
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Penn State lost my respect with the Mann cover-up. Given PSU admin's lack of honor regarding climatgate, the Sandusky/Paterno thing was no great surprise. Sadly.
ReplyDeleteI read the original piece and thought Mark was very gentle-manly in protecting Mann from any channeling of Sandusky. But yes, he then eviscerated him for what he says is bogus science. I don't think the NR editor should have removed the prelude--it set the mood for the darkness Penn State embraced in various departments. The Truth will prevail. ---Sego Lily posting as Anonymous
ReplyDeleteFor a guy who makes defamatory and apparently unsupportable statements about skeptic climate scientists being corrupted by fossil fuel industry funding, it is just plain weird that Michael Mann fails to think about what will happen if people check the veracity of that accusation.
ReplyDeleteConsider what Richard Lindszen said at the end of this article ( http://wwwp.dailyclimate.org/tdc-newsroom/2012/02/industry-influence ): "When Gelbspan published his piece, I checked into whether I should sue for libel, … I quickly discovered that it would cost more than I could afford." Seems skeptic scientists are NOT funded by big oil after all.
Who is Gelbspan? No less than essentially who Michael Mann cites when he says skeptic scientists are corrupt. At the 5 min 27 sec point of Mann's Dec 2011 TedX video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElI-XVGHCHs ) he has a slide of both the Hoggan/Littlemore and Oreskes/Conway anti-skeptic books. As I pointed out in my piece last year ( http://climatechangedispatch.com/editorials/7568-circuitous-attempts-to-smear-agw-skeptic-scientists ), Hoggan and Oreskes rely on a single source for their accusation to say skeptic scientists are corrupt. That's anti-skeptic book author Ross Gelbspan. Mann also says this about Gelbspan, in a brief review of the Hoggan/Littlemore "Climate Cover-Up" book at an October 2009 RealClimate blog: "Ross Gelbspan who has set the standard for investigative reporting when it comes to the climate change denial campaign…" http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/climate-cover-up-a-brief-review/
Problem is, as I describe in most of my online articles including my June 18 "Global Warming's Killer: Critical Thinking" ( http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/global_warmings_killer_critical_thinking.html ), Gelbspan's accusation is so full of holes, the widespread revelation of it risks putting the entire concept of man-caused global warming in jeopardy. You see, if there is no valid reason why the public should believe skeptic scientist are corrupt and untrustworthy, then they will wonder why the mainstream media didn't tell us more about skeptic climate assessments over the last decade or two.
You'd think Michael Mann would want to keep the 'defamation thing' as quiet as possible, simply for his own self preservation.
You could see there was something wrong with the "hockey stick" from the minute you looked at it, provided you had the minimum of cultural knowledge one would expect a Ph.D. scientist to have, especially one dealing in the history of global climate. A graph purporting to show mean global temperatures from 1000 AD to near 2000 AD showed no evidence of either the Medieval Warm Period or the Little Ice Age. Anyone who knew about those historically attested episodes would have perceived something wtong from their absence. That Mann did not, and that the reviewers and editors of the journal did not, reflects shoddy thinking and/or ignorance of well-known historical facts on climate on their parts.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how that evidence of incompetence, or ideologically driven fudging, will go over with the court?
Oh, no, don’t throw me in that briar patch where they allow discovery of all related documents, P’fesser Mann, please don’t throw me in the briar patch …
ReplyDelete"Fun, maybe, for us spectators, but it couldn't be all that diverting for the parties involved, as it drains away their time, energy, and financial resources. Mark Steyn has much better things to do."
ReplyDeleteNo he doesn't. This is what he does. He is a modern Paladin, a knight without armour in a savage land.
His best columns are sub-titled "The Happy Warrior". Why do you suppose that is?
I wish I had a tenth of his character and courage and joy in life.